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腓立比书生命读经 · 第11篇

基督的高举

THE EXALTATION OF CHRIST
1读经:腓立比书2:9-11,以弗所书1:19-22,使徒行传2:36。
1Scripture Reading: Phil. 2:9-11; Eph. 1:19-22; Acts 2:36
2在本篇信息中,我们要来看基督的高举。(腓二9~11。)二章九节中基督的高举,实际上就是复活大能的显明。复活的大能总是随著钉十字架的生活。照著三章十节,保罗渴望认识基督复活的大能、以及同祂受苦的交通。在前一篇信息里我们指出,二章五至八节有基督作我们的榜样,这榜样就是我们里面钉十字架的生命。接著钉十字架的生命,就是复活的大能,基督藉著这大能被升为至高。在圣经里,使基督得高举的大能称为复活的大能。当我们过钉十字架的生活时,我们就认识复活的大能,以及同祂受苦的交通。
2In this message we shall consider the exaltation of Christ (2:9-12). The exaltation of Christ in 2:9 is actually the manifestation of resurrection power. Resurrection power always follows the living of a crucified life. According to 3:10, Paul aspired to know the power of Christ’s resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings. In the foregoing message we pointed out that in 2:5-8 we have Christ as our pattern and that this pattern is the crucified life within us. Following the crucified life, there is the power of resurrection by which Christ is exalted to the uttermost. In the Bible the power to exalt Christ is called the power of resurrection. When we live a crucified life, we know the power of resurrection and the fellowship of Christ’s sufferings
经历基督作我们的榜样
EXPERIENCING CHRIST AS OUR PATTERN
3腓立比二章和三章之间是互相呼应的。二章给我们看见,我们应该过钉十字架的生活,使我们得以享受复活的大能。三章给我们看见,保罗渴望认识基督复活的大能。我们应该以二章五至八节钉十字架的生活为我们的榜样,好叫我们能经历那将基督升到宇宙至高之处的复活大能。我们经历基督作钉十字架生活的榜样,并经历那将基督高举的复活大能,都是无穷尽的。日复一日,我们必须过钉十字架的生活;这就是活基督作我们的榜样。我们应该过倒空自己并降卑自己的生活,而不该私图好争,不该贪图虚荣。这就是过钉十字架的生活。藉著这种生活,我们就被带进将基督高举的复活大能里。照保罗在三章所说,他不是以为自己对此已经经历完全了。他仍然渴望认识并经历基督复活的大能,以及同祂受苦的交通。
3There is a correspondence between chapters two and three of Philippians. In chapter two we see that we should live a crucified life so that we may enjoy the power of resurrection. In chapter three we see Paul’s aspiration to know the power of Christ’s resurrection. We should take the crucified life in 2:5-8 as our pattern so that we can experience the power of resurrection which exalted Christ to the highest peak in the universe. The experience of Christ as the pattern of a crucified life and the experience of the resurrection power which exalts Him is endless. Day by day, we need to live a crucified life. This is to live Christ as our pattern. Instead of having a life of rivalry and vainglory, we should live a life of self- emptying and self-humbling. This is to live a crucified life. By means of this life we are ushered into the power of resurrection by which Christ is exalted. According to his word in chapter three, Paul did not regard himself as having experienced this in full. He still aspired to know, to experience, the power of Christ’s resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings
4今天在主的恢复里,我们中间有个迫切的需要,就是经历基督作我们的榜样。我们迫切需要经历祂作我们钉十字架的生活。这样的生活与私图好争并贪图虚荣是完全对立的。在召会生活里,我们若不是以钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,就是自动过著私图好争与贪图虚荣的生活。没有第三种生活方式。我们若不以钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,我们就会自动过著争夺虚荣的生活。这是极其严肃的问题。我们必须诚实的面对自己,想想我们在召会中向来所过的生活。你若回顾已过召会生活的年日,就会发现,每当你没有以钉十字架的生活作榜样时,你就过著争夺虚荣的生活。
4There is an urgent need among us in the Lord’s recovery today to experience Christ as our pattern. We desperately need to experience Him as our crucified life. Such a life stands altogether in contrast to a life of rivalry and vainglory. In the church life we either take the crucified life as our pattern or automatically live a life of rivalry and vainglory. There is no third way. If we do not take the crucified life as our pattern, we shall automatically live in the way of rivalry for vainglory. The issue here is extremely serious. We need to be honest with ourselves and consider the kind of life we have been living in the church. If you review the time you have been in the church life, you will see that whenever you did not take the crucified life as your pattern, you were living a life of rivalry for vainglory.
5最令使徒保罗受困扰的,就是知道腓立比的圣徒过著贪图虚荣的生活。他非常关切他们是否过钉十字架的生活。我们已经看见,这生活就是那倒空自己并降卑自己的基督。以这个钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,就能开启复活之门,带我们进入复活的大能里。出于神的高举,绝非来自私图好争或贪图虚荣。我们越寻求虚荣,我们的光景就越可耻。追求虚荣实际上一点也不是荣耀,乃是羞耻。同样,我们与他人争竞的结果,绝不是被高举,乃是被降为卑。地上最高的生活,就是钉十字架的生活。每当我们过钉十字架的生活时,神就会带我们进入复活的大能;在这大能里,我们就要得著高举。我过召会生活的这些年间,看见许多争夺虚荣的事例。所有私图好争的人都走下坡路,没有一个例外。在召会生活里,争竞是极其愚昧的。我们应该惧怕这个,过于惧怕蛇。每当你与他人争竞时,毫无疑问你是活在己里面。我们必须定罪这种争竞,并加以弃绝。
5Nothing was more troubling to the apostle Paul than to learn that the saints in Philippi were living in the way of vainglory. He was very concerned that they live a crucified life. As we have seen, this life is Christ Himself as the One who emptied Himself and humbled Himself. Taking this crucified life as our pattern opens the gate of resurrection and brings us into the power of resurrection. The exaltation which is of God will never come by way of rivalry or vainglory. The more we seek vainglory, the more shameful our situation will be. To pursue vainglory is not a glory at all; it is a shame. Likewise, when we are in rivalry with others, the result is never exaltation. Inevitably the result is that we are brought low. The highest life on earth is the crucified life. Whenever we live a crucified life, God will bring us into the power of resurrection, and in this power we shall be exalted. During the years I have been in the church life, I have known many cases of those who were in rivalry for vainglory. Without exception, all those who engaged in such rivalry went downhill. It is utterly foolish to have rivalry in the church life. We should fear this more than we fear a serpent. Whenever you are in rivalry with others, you are without question living in the self. We must condemn this rivalry and repudiate it
6此外,在召会生活里,我们没有一人应该把持个人的地位。当然,我们必须为著主的见证站立得住。然而,我们不该为自己争取任何地位、头衔或身分。我们若争取这些,就永远不能把我们带进复活的大能里。在召会生活里,我不仅看见争夺虚荣的人,也看见许多以钉十字架的生活为榜样的圣徒。至终,这些圣徒进入复活的大能,在其中经历了神的高举。
6Furthermore, none of us in the church life should hold to any personal standing. Of course, we must stand firm for the Lord’s testimony. However, we should not claim any standing, title, or position for ourselves. Making such claims will never bring us into the power of resurrection. In the church life I have seen not only those who were in rivalry for vainglory, but also a good number of saints who took the crucified life as their pattern. Eventually, these saints entered into the power of resurrection where they experienced God’s exaltation
7我恳切盼望今天在召会生活里,没有一位圣徒寻求自己的荣耀。我们不该寻求荣耀,乃该寻求基督,并且单一寻求祂;这样,我们就经历钉十字架的生命。
7I earnestly hope that none of the saints in the church life today will seek glory for themselves. Instead of seeking glory, we should seek Christ and Him alone. Then we shall experience the crucified life.
8我相信在腓立比的召会里,友欧底亚和循都基两位姊妹乃是为著地位或虚荣而私图好争。否则保罗不需要劝她们要『在主里思念相同的事』。(四2。)那里的召会若没有私图好争的难处,保罗就不必在二章三节说,『凡事都不私图好争,也不贪图虚荣。』因著腓立比圣徒中间有争夺虚荣的难处,保罗必须陈明基督作为过钉十字架生活的榜样。因为在腓立比,争夺虚荣是个确实的难处,所以保罗只在腓立比书,而没有在别卷书,题出这个榜样。只要腓立比那里的圣徒中有人寻求自己的荣耀,那里就有私图好争。因此,保罗给他们看见,神的儿子基督本有崇高的地位。祂本有神的形状,并有权利与神同等。然而,祂不以自己与神同等为强夺之珍,紧持不放,反而倒空自己,取了奴仆的形状,成为人的样式;既显为人的样子,就降卑自己,顺从至死,且死在十字架上。那些为自己寻求地位和头衔的腓立比圣徒,的确需要照著过钉十字架生活的榜样─基督─而活。我们必须承认,腓立比圣徒中间争夺虚荣的情形,今天在许多地方召会中间也看得见。毫无疑问,在主恢复以外的基督徒当中有许多争夺虚荣的事。但是我们这些在召会中的人又如何?至少在某种程度上,这种争竞还存在我们中间。因此,我们需要保罗论到基督是我们榜样的这些话。我们必须蒙光照,以这个钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,使我们得以经历复活的大能。当我们过著钉十字架的生活时,我们就会被引进复活的大能里,而这大能就会高举我们。然而,我们应当受警告,不要将论到钉十字架的生活、复活的大能和神的高举这些话,作为寻求荣耀的根据。我们甚至不该将真实的荣耀当作基督以外的事物来追求。不要寻求基督自己以外的荣耀。我们必须说,『主,我只要你。我不寻求任何高举或荣耀。』我们若以钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,我们就会经历复活的大能。这复活的大能乃是基督自己。基督不仅是钉十字架的生命,祂也是复活的大能。
8I believe that in the church in Philippi, two sisters, Euodias and Syntyche, were in rivalry for position or vainglory. Otherwise, there would have been no need for Paul to beg them to “think the same thing in the Lord” (4:2). If there had not been the problem of rivalry in the church there, there would have been no need for Paul to say in 2:3, “Doing nothing by way of rivalry nor by way of vainglory.” Because among the saints in Philippi there was rivalry for vainglory, it was necessary for Paul to present Christ as the pattern of a crucified life. Paul presents this pattern in Philippians, not in other books, because in Philippi rivalry for vainglory was a definite problem. As long as certain of the saints there were seeking glory for themselves, there was rivalry. There fore, Paul showed them that Christ, the Son of God, had a very high position. He possessed the very form of God and had the right to be equal with God. Nevertheless, He did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men. Then, being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient even unto the death of the cross. Those Philippian saints who were seeking position and title for themselves surely needed to live according to Christ as the pattern of a crucified life. We must admit that the rivalry for vainglory found among the saints in Philippi can also be found in many local churches today. No doubt, among the Christians outside the Lord’s recovery there is much rivalry for vainglory. But what about us in the churches? To some extent at least, such rivalry still exists among us. Thus, we need Paul’sword concerning Christ as our pattern. We need to be enlightened and take this crucified life as our pattern so that we may experience the power of resurrection. When we live the crucified life, we shall be ushered into resurrection power, and this power will exalt us. We should be warned, however, not to take this word about the crucified life, the power of resurrection, and God’s exaltation as a ground for seeking glory. We should not even seek true glory as something apart from Christ. Do not seek any glory that is other than Christ Himself. We need to say, “Lord, I want only You. I am not seeking any exaltation or glory.” If we take the crucified life as our pattern, we shall experience the power of resurrection. This resurrection power is Christ Himself. Christ is not only the crucified life, but He is also the power of resurrection.
9圣徒时常抱怨自己软弱。甚么时候我们不以钉十字架的生活作我们的榜样,我们就会软弱。你若在家庭生活、日常生活或召会生活中是软弱的,这指明你没有过钉十字架的生活,因此你也不在复活的大能里。我再说,我们要进入复活的大能,入口乃是钉十字架的生活。保罗对腓立比圣徒的期望,乃是要他们过这种钉十字架的生活,进而经历复活的大能。
9Often the saints complain of weaknesses. We are weak whenever we do not take the crucified life as our pattern. If you are weak in your family life, daily life, or church life, it is an indication that you are not taking the crucified life and therefore are not in the power of resurrection. I repeat, the gate through which we enter into the power of resurrection is the crucified life. Paul’s expectation concerning the saints in Philippi was that they would live this crucified life and then experience the power of resurrection
在我们的经历中高举基督
EXALTING CHRIST IN OUR EXPERIENCE
10我在本篇信息的负担,乃是将基督的高举联于我们属灵的经历。神已经高举了基督,但你有否高举祂?在宇宙中基督已被高举,但是在你里面祂有否被高举?问题是基督已经在各处得著高举,却没有在你里面被高举。这就是为甚么我不在意谈论基督客观的高举,却关切在我们主观的经历中应用基督的高举。我们若不以基督这钉十字架的生活作我们日常生活的榜样,祂就不能在我们里面被高举。
10My burden in this message is to relate the exaltation of Christ to our spiritual experience. God has already exalted Christ, but have you exalted Him? Christ has been exalted in the universe, but has He been exalted in you? The problem is that Christ has been exalted everywhere except in you. This is the reason that I do not care to talk about the exaltation of Christ in an objective way, but to apply this to our subjective experience. Christ cannot be exalted in us unless we take Him as the crucified life to be the pattern of our daily life
11我们不该忘记,腓立比书是一卷论到经历基督的书。因此在本书,甚至是基督的高举也与我们的经历有关。我年轻的时候,别人也教导我关于基督被高举的事。然而在信徒的生活中,我很少看见基督被高举。这充其量不过是圣经的教训而已。我们对基督的经历,必须提高到祂在我们的生活中得著高举的程度。不要以为基督被高举仅仅是客观的。正如我们必须经历那倒空自己并降卑自己的基督,照样,我们也必须经历那被高举的基督。神已经在宇宙中高举了基督,但如今在我们个人的宇宙─我们的日常生活、家庭生活和召会生活中,还需要我们高举祂。保罗盼望在腓立比的圣徒能在日常生活中高举基督。信徒若如此行,就会使保罗的喜乐满足。保罗并不只求圣徒对他有积极的态度。他盼望信徒经历基督作钉十字架的生活,进而经历被高举的基督。基督的高举必须在我们的日常生活中实现出来。
11We should not forget that Philippians is a book on the experience of Christ. Hence, even the exaltation of Christ in this book is related to our experience. When I was young, I was taught about Christ’s exaltation. However, I did not see much of Christ’s exaltation in the lives of believers. This was primarily just a teaching from the Bible. We need to experience Christ to such a high degree that in our life He is exalted. Do not consider Christ’s exaltation merely in an objective way. Just as we need to experience the Christ who emptied Himself and humbled Himself, so we need to experience the Christ who has been exalted. God has already exalted Christ in the universe, but now it remains for us to exalt Him in our personal universe—in our daily life, in our family life, and in our church life. Paul’s desire was that the saints in Philippi would exalt Christ in their daily living. If the believers had done this, they would have made Paul’s joy full. Paul did not want the saints simply to have a positive attitude toward him. His expectation was that the believers would experience Christ as the crucified life and then experience Christ in His exaltation. Christ’s exaltation needs to be carried out in our daily living
救恩的最高标准
THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF SALVATION
12二章十二节可以证明,保罗的观念乃是基督不仅客观的在宇宙中被高举,也要主观的在我们日常生活的经历中得著高举。保罗在五至八节说到钉十字架的生命,并在九至十一节说到被高举的生命之后,在十二节说,『这样,我亲爱的,你们既是常顺从的,不但我与你们同在的时候,就是我如今不在的时候,更是顺从的,就当恐惧战兢,作成你们自己的救恩。』『这样』一辞指明,保罗在十二节所说的,乃是前几节接受基督作钉十字架生活之榜样的结果。这些话指明,基督钉十字架的生命应该是我们的经历,基督高举的生命也应该是我们的经历。一面,我们可以说基督被高举的生命;另一面,我们也可以说基督高举的生命。不论怎么说,在二章九至十一节有一个高举的生命。这样的生命也该是我们所作成之救恩的一部分。十二节里救恩的主要元素,乃是作钉十字架生命的基督,以及在高举里的基督。这该是我们藉著神在我们里面的运行所作成的救恩。基督的高举的确是我们救恩的最高标准。我们不该是一班仅仅得救的人,而该是藉著基督复活的大能被高举的人。保罗说到基督的高举,目的不是客观的教导道理。这一点乃是与基督徒的经历有关,正如这卷书所包括的其他项目一样。我们必须经历基督的降卑;这意思是说,我们必须经历祂作倒空自己并降卑自己的那位。如今基督已被神高举到宇宙的至高之处,我们也必须经历祂的高举。哦,愿主开我们的眼睛,给我们看见,我们远远搆不上神救恩的标准!我们所作成之救恩的标准必须高到一个地步,包括基督的高举。基督的高举该是我们对救恩的终极经历。这不仅需要基督作我们钉十字架的生命,也需要基督在复活的大能里作我们高举的生命。使祂在宇宙中被高举的大能,正是叫祂在我们里面被高举的大能。这大能一点不差就是耶稣基督之灵全备的供应。在腓立比书里,保罗用不同的辞句说到同一个实际。耶稣基督之灵全备的供应,就是那使基督被高举的大能;这也是三章十节复活的大能,以及四章十三节所题到的能力。保罗在四章十三节说,『我在那加我能力者的里面,凡事都能作。』用以加我们能力的,就是复活的大能、高举的大能、以及耶稣基督之灵全备的供应。这个大能足以使我们作成自己的救恩,达到最高的标准。当我们达到这标准时,我们就得胜有余了。
12Proof that Paul’s concept was that Christ would be exalted not only objectively in the universe but also subjectively and experientially in our daily life is found in verse 12. After speaking of the crucified life in verses 5 through 8 and the exalted life in verses 9 through 11, Paul says in verse 12, “So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only as in my presence, but now much rather in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” The words so then indicate that what Paul speaks of in verse 12 is a consequence of taking Christ as the pattern of a crucified life in the preceding verses. These words indicate that Christ’s crucified life should be our experience. It is also true that Christ’s exalting life should be our experience. On the one hand, we may speak of Christ’s exalted life; on the other hand, of His exalting life. No matter which expression we use, in 2:9-11 we have a life of exaltation. Such a life should also be part of the salvation worked out by us. The main elements of the salvation in verse 12 are Christ as the crucified life and Christ in His exaltation. This should be the salvation we work out by God operating in us. Surely the exaltation of Christ is the highest standard of our salvation. We should not simply be those who are saved, but we should be those who are exalted through Christ’s resurrection power. It was not Paul’s a i min speaking of the exaltation of Christ to teach doctrine objectively. Like all the other matters covered in this book, this point is related to Christian experience. We need to experience Christ in His humiliation. This means we need to experience Him as the One who emptied Himself and humbled Himself. Now that Christ has been exalted by God to the highest peak in the universe, we need to experience Him also in His exaltation. Oh, may the Lord open our eyes to the fact that we are far below His standard of salvation! The standard of the salvation worked out by us must be so high that it includes the exaltation of Christ. Christ’s exaltation should be our consummate experience in salvation. This requires that Christ be not only our crucified life, but also our exalted life in the power of resurrection. The very power that has exalted Him in the universe is the power that causes Him to be exalted in us. This power is nothing less than the bountiful supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. In the book of Philippians Paul uses different terms to refer to the same reality. The bountiful supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ is the very power that exalts Christ. It is also the power of resurrection in 3:10 and the power referred to in 4:13, where Paul says, “I can do all things in Him who empowers me.” That with which we are empowered is the power of resurrection, the exalting power, and the bountiful supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ. This power is adequate to enable us to work out our salvation to the highest standard. When we reach this standard, we shall be more than conquerors.
13二章十二至十六节是五至十一节的说明;这就是说,『这样』包含了十二至十六节保罗所有的话。因此,二章五至十一节需要十二至十六节作其解释和说明。
13Verses 12 through 16 are the interpretation of verses 5 through 1 1. This means that the words so then include all that Paul covers in verses 12 through 16. Therefore, 2:5-11 needs 2:12-16 for its interpretation and exposition.
至高的名
THE HIGHEST NAME
14腓立比二章九节说,『所以神将祂升为至高,又赐给祂那超乎万名之上的名。』主降卑自己到极点,但神将祂高举到极峰。这节题到的名乃是耶稣的名,如下一节所指明的。从主升天以来,地上从无一名超乎耶稣的名。神已经把这一位真正的人耶稣高举成为万有的主。因此,我们呼喊『哦,主耶稣』是完全正确的。我们必须公开承认主的名。藉著呼求主名来敬拜祂是何等的荣耀!事实上,新约里没有吩咐我们要敬拜基督,却清楚指示我们要呼求主名。
14Philippians 2:9 says, “Wherefore also God highly exalted Him and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name.” The Lord humbled Himself to the uttermost, but God exalted Him to the highest peak. The name referred to in this verse is the name of Jesus, as indicated in the following verse. From the time of the Lord’s ascension, there has never been a name on this earth above the name of Jesus. God has exalted Jesus, a real man, to be the Lord of all. Therefore, it is altogether right for us to call, “O Lord Jesus.” We need to confess the Lord’s name openly. What a glory it is to worship the Lord by calling on His name! Actually, in the New Testament we are not told to worship Christ, but there is the clear indication that we are to call on the Lord’s name
15当保罗还是大数的扫罗时,从祭司长领了权柄,要捆绑那些呼求耶稣之名的人。今天,我们因著呼求主耶稣的名,也遭受反对。但是,我们越遭受反对与攻击,我们就越当呼求祂的名。主藉著被高举,得著了超乎万名之上的名。历史上从未有一名比主耶稣的名更高。宇宙间最高、最大的名,乃是耶稣的名。在十至十一节保罗继续说,『叫天上的、地上的和地底下的,在耶稣的名里,万膝都要跪拜,万口都要公开承认耶稣基督为主,使荣耀归与父神。』这名乃是主耶稣在祂身位和工作上,一切所是之总和的表明。在耶稣的名里,意即在主一切所是的范围和元素里。我们乃是这样的敬拜主,并向祂祷告。
15When Paul was Saul of Tarsus, he received authority from the chief priests to bind those who called on the name of Jesus. Today we are opposed for calling on the name of the Lord Jesus. But the more we are opposed and attacked, the more we should call on His name. By His exaltation, the Lord has been given a name which is above every name. There has never been a name in history higher than the name of the Lord Jesus. The highest name in the universe, the greatest name, is the name of Jesus. In verses 10 and 11 Paul goes on to say, “That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and every tongue should openly confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” The name is the expression of the sum total of what the Lord Jesus is in His Person and work. The words in the name mean in the sphere and element of all the Lord is. It is in this way we worship the Lord and pray to Him
16我们不只该呼求主耶稣的名,也当在祂的名里屈膝。这就是敬拜祂。在十节我们看见宇宙的三个层次:天、地、以及地底下。天上的是天使,地上的是人,地底下的是死了的人。日子将到,在各个层次的都要屈膝,并承认耶稣基督为主。公开承认耶稣基督为主,就是呼求主。(罗十9~,12~13。)为人的主耶稣,在升天里被神立为主。(徒二36。)因此,万口都要承认祂是主。这样的承认,就使荣耀归与父神。繙作『使』的希腊字,意思是『结果』。我们承认耶稣是主,结果使荣耀归与父神。这是基督在祂的身位和工作上,一切所是并所作的伟大结果。(林前十五24~28。)
16We should not only call on the name of the Lord Jesus, but also bow our knees in His name. This is to worship Him. In verse 10 we see three levels of the universe: heaven, earth, and under the earth. Those who are in heaven are angels, those who are on earth are men, and those who are under the earth are the dead. The day is coming when those one very level will bow their knees and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. To openly confess that Jesus Christ is Lord is to call on the Lord (Rom. 10:9-10 10, 12-13). The Lord Jesus as a man was made the Lord in His ascension by God (Acts 2:36). Thus, every tongue should confess that He is Lord. This confession is to the glory of God the Father. The Greek word rendered to means “resulting in.” Our confessing that Jesus is Lord results in the glory of God the Father. This is the great end of all that Christ is and has done in His Person and work (1 Cor. 15:24-28).